ok i realize that this is a little late, but this is in response to laura's (??? i think ???) question on what everyone else's definition of justice is and then chad having compared it to pornography.
This comment got me thinking about an extremely funny, well it was at the time, instance in a class where we were studying the 20's in a class... The teacher was discussing how fashion was revolutionized and everything and how women were suddenly flashing their ankles all over the place. A classmate declared it to be "amish porn." I realize that that could be terribly politically incorrect and everything but just stay with me here. I'm telling this story because chad said you know if its justice, kinda like if you know something is pornography. For example, in the memoirs of a geisha clip that we watched, the teacher told the girl to flash her wrist at the customers in order to give them a treat... at the time and in that culture, a wrist may have been the equivalent of tara reid's nipple slip at some award show... pretty shocking, but basically, no one really thought about it after a week... the pornography issue is different to everyone, dependent on culture and times and public opinion. This is exactly like justice... it's not clear cut, you never really can decide preset what is just and what isn't.

In some countries, it's perfectly fine for a man to get his hands chopped off for stealing whereas another finds it appalling and makes the man do community service. It all depends on the situation... the law may say that no one is allowed to have an abortion, but what happens when a woman is raped, is going to randomly be pregnant with quintuplets and at birth, the mother will die, no question... then is it ok for the mother to get an abortion? (Ok that was a bit extreme, but tryin to make a point here...) So in response to the question, there is no clear cut definition of justice for me, its all gray, not black and white. You can't pre-conceive everything. I know that laws do that, but that's what the courts are for... For murder, one gets life imprisonment, but when it's in self-defense, then they're ok even tho they technically killed someone. There's always an exception to the rule, even though there shouldn't be sometimes, such as where rapists and murderers go to jail for 2 months then get out on probation. And maybe some people believe that they have learned their lesson in that short amount of time and others believe that there are better things to do than jail. But that just shows that there is no clear cut definition of justice... there is an overall, broad sense of decency and what is right and wrong, but there is always that black sheep that thinks killing is ok, or that rape is ok or that stealing is ok. But most people will probably tell you that murder is wrong and that rape is wrong... but that is the general consensus. There is always a gray area where people are going to argue about it and where it is very hard to make a decision on it...